Roll The Bones: (L to R) Bri, Mark, Max, Riley (who has since left and has been replaced by new member Joe), and Nash.
New member Joe @ Soho. Oct. 2023.
Words & Photography: Josalynn Lawrence (Mildmusings) Roll The Bones is an Edmonton based Rock N Roll band that released their self-titled debut album Nov. 17th, 2023. These guys were an absolute treat to get to know. Together, the members become a mesh of friendly, chaotic banter. Composed of five members - Maxwell, Bri, Nash, Mark, and Joe (who unfortunately couldn't make it for the interview), the initial impression of Roll The Bones is how remarkably down to earth they are. Here's part one of our lengthy interview session a few weeks back at the lovely Bri and Mark's home in Edmonton.
*Editor's note: Interview has been condensed and edited for clarity.
Maxwell @ Soho. Oct. 2023. INTERVIEWER: Who are you guys?
MAXWELL: Roll the who? [laughter] We are Roll The Bones. Ah. I'm Maxwell Evans. Uh, I write and I sing and I play the guitar.
MARK: I'm Mark, and I play the percussion.
NASH: Hi, Mark. My name is Nash. I'm the bassist.
BRI: I'm Bri. I'm alternative percussion and backup vocals.
MAXWELL: Gotta get a better title. He's more backup vocals than you [laughs]
NASH: You're frontline vocals. Enough people ask if this is Bri's band. [laughs]
BRI: Yeah, okay. Hi, my name is Brie. I'm alternative percussion and lead fucking vocals.
MAXWELL: That's enough mansplaining on our part haha.
NASH: We do need a better title for you. We need something more-
BRI: I don't know…Alternative percussionist and vocalist?
MAXWELL: Alt percussionist, yeah.
BRI: Vocalist, alt percussionist, yeah.
MAXWELL: Okay, but I'll take the back.
BRI: Yeah, you take the backing.
MARK: I guess I just scream and shove behind the kit when I feel like it.
MAXWELL: Number one thing you do. “Can you turn my vocals back here? More reverb.”
NASH: “Not enough.”
MAXWELL: “Much more reverb.”
MARK: I want to sound like I'm in a cave. [laughter]
INTERVIEWER: How did you guys all meet?
NASH: The old lore…
MAXWELL: Okay, um, let's work backwards here.
NASH: Dirtbag? MAXWELL: Well, technically. Okay, so if we go from the roots of Roll the Bones. I went from kindergarten to grade nine with this guy named Ben, who's cousins with his really good friends, the Eddies. And they all played in a band together, excluding Ben. And I think that's when I first met you guys, is. I don't know, something along through that connection. And then fast forward to university. Um, there was an open mic that happened behind the campus, uh, at a place called Dirtbag Cafe. And on Wednesday nights, this guy Adam and Larson and Glenn McDonald threw this open mic. I don't like to throw the word around, but it was fairly legendary. That open mic started many, many music careers that are still pumping even now.
Band members during a July 2023 photoshoot.
INTERVIEWER: Now, you're not talking the Dirtbag Cafe behind MacEwan, right?
MAXWELL: I certainly am. It used to be a wild open Mic on Wednesday night.
MARK: Half price wine.
MAXWELL: Oh, yeah.
INTERVIEWER: They're not still doing it, are they?
MAXWELL: Unfortunately, no. And I heard that they were maybe bringing it back and whatnot. But as far as it is now, it's no longer a thing. And Mark and I both attended there, and I think that's when we started chatting a little bit more and playing. And at the same time, I was in a class. What class was it?
BRI: Business sustainability.
MAXWELL: Business sustainability with Bri. And we met on the first day of class, and we ended up sitting next to each other the entire time. And then I think that's how you [points to Bri] got connected to Dirtbag. I was like, oh, you're into music. You should come up to this open mic.
BRI: Yes.
MAXWELL: [turns to face Nash] And then at some point, you started just attending the open mic, too.
NASH: Yeah, well, I worked with Glenn at the Bear.
MAXWELL: Oh, right, he did the morning radio.
NASH: And he kept saying, like, “oh, my God, man, I'm doing this open mic every Wednesday at MacEwan. You should come by.” And serendipity was that, uh, I was taking an evening class at MacEwan on Wednesday nights and walking to my car one night, heard music from this bar across the street, and went, I wonder if that's the one Glenn keeps telling me about. And decided to walk in and I still haven't left. [laughter]
MAXWELL: Yeah. So I guess that's how we all met. Like, Roll the Bones isn't what it is now from then, but that's how we all got connected.
INTERVIEWER: How would you guys describe each other? Like, not yourselves per se, but each other?
BRI: [cackles]
MAXWELL: Ooh, that's a good one. I'm not even going to start. [laughs] Go around the room. Mark, you're up.
MARK: How would I describe-
BRI:: You can't describe me. You're not allowed.
MARK: Uh, I'm going to describe uh….
BRI: The band's going to break up after this. We’ll all hurt each other's feelings.
NASH: [lowering voice] Max is the vibe of the band. Bri the energy of the bed. [laughs] Okay, I'm sorry. She danced around the stage more than anybody else. Actually, the two of you together are basically the energy of the band.
MAXWELL: Oh come on, we could do better than that.
NASH: I don't know, man.
BRI: There was one…okay. Who was it? It was Briza uh, from, um, Dollhouse Cafe.
MAXWELL: She described inside the article? [in reference to a show review by local Edmonton writer/photographer Briza]
BRI: Yeah, in the article, the first one. It was talking about the show at the Buck, and it was talking about Max, and it was…What did it say?
NASH: Pretentious rocker.
MAXWELL: Emo... arrogant. But doesn't take himself too seriously.
NASH:: Marissa quotes that constantly. [laughs]
BRI: That’s the best…like I love Max. We've been friends forever. But I think it's rock star, but not like, I don't know, Mark. Like, arrogant rock star, but not really? He's not arrogant. He's a sweet dude who has feelings, and he's always there for you.
MAXWELL: Rockstar with a soul?
Maxwell at Soho, Oct. 2023.
BRI: I don't know. Max is like, the way she put it was so fucking funny, and I just peed my pants, and I was like, that's Max, but, like, in the most lighthearted way.
MAXWELL: It's like, arrogant rocker or something,
BRI: Yeah, arrogant rocker.
MAXWELL: We can pull it up and find it if we want to nail it. I'm pretty sure I have it. [pulls out phone to find the artcle]
BRI: Can you look it up? And I can't describe Mark. That's not allowed. He's not allowed to describe me. Nash, I would say, is just laid back. He just holds it down, and he's just very stoic. When we perform, he has…there's, like, different versions.
MARK: He's just concentrating. [laughter] NASH: I got to keep track of him. I got to keep track of him [points at Max]. I got to keep track of you, because any one of you at any moment will do something out of left field that I'm not ready for. [laughs]
MAXWELL: Yeah. What did you say one time? You're like, “I have to do that because you're up there in the front, providing an energy, Bri’s over there, providing her own essence. Mark's in the back, like, paying attention to me. So you have no room but not to be 100% on point.”
BRI: Nash is, like, concentrated and stoic when we perform, and then a little bit sometimes Nash can be sassy. Maybe not. I don't know what the word.
NASH: No, that's an accurate word. I think, actually. Sassy works. I’ll take it.
BRI: This is a good question, Josalynn. This is like making me think because I never put people into words. Ah, Mark, I'm passing the torch to you. You need to say something now.
MARK: So who should I describe?
BRI: Well, you're not allowed to describe me, so either…
MARK:: Well, Max has been described and Nash has been. Can I describe myself?
MAXWELL: No!
BRI: Okay, you can describe me. Go ahead. Carefully. [At this point, Bri is leaning forward in her seat, slightly nervous but mostly amused]
MAXWELL: [looks up from his phone] Oh, I got it. I pulled it.
BRI: What is it?
MAXWELL: It says…of course. When I open it, it changes where I was reading. [pulls up to Briza’s article] “Their energy on stage is a great mix of playful, personable, and borderline cocky rock star.”
BRI: [laughs] Yeah, that was it! Borderline cocky rock star.
MAXWELL: “Plus, they have a tamborista who was front and center the entire time.” Perfect.
BRI: That's the essence.
INTERVIEWER: Yeah, this is pretty accurate from what I've seen of you guys.
[laughs]
MAXWELL: And him? [Gestures to Mark] Perfectionist.
BRI: Yes, perfectionist.
MAXWELL: And, like, it doesn't even need any other explanation.
BRI: That's it.
NASH: But not like, It's perfectionist. But it's not perfectionist in the bad way -
MAXWELL: I think there's some negative perfectionists in here.
[laughs]
NASH: Oh no, it's definitely there. It's like the rehearsal we had a little bit ago before the last show where it was like trying to figure out exactly what the drum fill was on “Without Me” [a single off their newly released record]. And just like, “that was it.” But it wasn't right. But that was it. But it wasn't right. That's maybe where it comes out a bit. But then the flip side of it is also, you know everybody's parts.
BRI: It's all in Mark's brain.
MAXWELLL: Yeah. This is where more of the perfectionist was.
NASH: [points to Max] You write it, he remembers. Like he knows it.
BRI:: But Mark is like the puppet master, kind of like he knows. He's like, “hey, you should do this and you should do that and you should do that.” But for the betterment of the group.
NASH He's got the full picture in his head.
BRI: Yes.
MAXWELL: Yeah, you can hear the music. You have a really good ear, which -
NASH: - which is a good thing to have for a drummer too.
MAXWELL: And you have skill with multiple instruments too. It's opened it up. Something that I feel like you don't always take into consideration other people don't have. [laughs] “Do this thing. It's really easy.” And we're all like, “dude, that's not that easy.” MARK: I can grab a guitar and show you.
NASH: Our drummer happens to be a really really really good guitarist. Uh, maybe too good for a drummer.
MARK: I'm only on the drums because someone needed to play them. But I love playing the drums. Yeah, it's good to have you on drums.
[some general banter]
MAXWELL: Well, that's the thing. We use rockstar with a soul for me, but I think you have even more soul than I do.
NASH: Something changed when Bri joined. Yeah.
MAXWELL: For the better.
NASH: The live show changed. Something happened.
MARK: A different energy, different dynamic.
NASH:: It changed from at the time when you joined. Riley was still on guitar. And it changed from me and Riley, who are both very stoic on stage because we just concentrate and kind of like to melt into the back a little bit more. Which left all of the front manning on Max. You add Bri in the mix… Now we have two front men or front man and a front woman. Like, we have two people who have center stage energy to hold the show. And what that means is basically just double the amount of energy for every show.
MAXWELL: Yeah, we were like a punch in the face before. And you [Bri] made it more like a wind. Yeah. Still crazy forceful. But you're more elegant, you're more calculated.
NASH: People be like, “This is Bri’s band, right?”.
MAXWELL: I mean, look at the attention to detail as you notice when you walked in. [in reference to Bri and Mark’s lovely home. The living room can only be described as like stepping into a warm, pleasant bubble full of random knickknacks and records.] Right. Like, I don't have that. I know you don't have that. You're too stoic. Yeah, I feel like there's a better word. Uh, but I don't think my vocabulary is good enough to nail it.
Bri: [laughs] That works. I approve.
MAXWELL: Always careful, calculated, and a hell of a lot more soul than I have.
NASH: You know how to play the room.
Mark: Yeah.
NASH: Yeah. But it's contagious.
MAXWELL: If you get a vibe for a certain room, it's the same vibe that everyone else is kind of feeling.
MARK: And it shows in the way that you shake your shakers or slap your tambourine or how you're dancing.
INTERVIEWER: What’s the best show you guys remember playing last?
BRI: One of the other really fun ones, I wasn't in the band, but when you guys played the patio, the back patio of Tavern.
MAXWELL: That was early.
BRI: That was so early. It was you and Mark Romero. Mark. And then Adam came up on the tambourine. And I remember I was just like, Mark and I were dating and I was like, in the audience and everyone. At one point you got them all to the ground. And then we literally laid on the back patio and then we all stood up and like, oh, it was the best.
NASH: And then when Max jumped up with you guys, he unplugged [his guitar].
MAXWELL: It was so awkward.
BRI: And then I had to plug it back in. And that has been a repeating theme throughout the band [laughs]
MAXWELL: Yo, we haven't played Tavern in a long time. So Tavern is like where we would frequent. We would throw a couple of our own shows there. They were so easy to work with. But I think about it, we probably did like six shows there. We just threw them on ourselves right before we started working with promoters.
INTERVIEWER: What makes you guys like, I guess it's five of you, right? What makes the five of you work right now as a band?
MAXWELL: Mhm. I mean, I guess it helps that we've known each other for a while without all being in a band like that definitely makes a difference. We were all either friends or more than friends moving into that territory. Um, so it's not the same thing as going on Craigslist or Kijiji or Facebook. I do this, this, and this. Come join me. I mean, that easily could work, and it does work, but it, um, might be harder in that sense. Um, and at the same time, though, I felt like if music was starting to get in the way of our friendships, we would communicate that with one another rather than leave it.
INTERVIEWER: Has it ever? BRI: There's been some, like, heated moments where things get elevated.
MAXWELL: Pressure from outgoing or, uh, I guess, things out of your control from within the project. Right. Life is kind of a bitch sometimes, and it can be stressful.
BRI: There's never been any moments where someone's like, “I want to fucking quit the band.” There's never been any big blowouts or anything. Everything's pretty good. Yeah. Like Max says, being friends before and knowing each other separately outside of music, like, outside of this project makes it easier to get along.
NASH: The friendship isn't based in the music. It's based around music. That's how we all met and how we all know each other and have kept in touch. But it's not music. This band isn't what made us all friends.
BRI: Yeah. And I think that the collective passion for music in, uh, our own specific [group]...Mark, maybe I don't want to put words in your mouth, but I don't think drums is your love, your passion, but you have a love for music and all things, like any instrument, and whatever you touch, it just works, and you make it your bitch. And so I think that each of us loving it, and I think it's, uh, at least for me, it's like a mode to an alternative persona or a place for you to put your energy and put your feelings and just escape for a little bit. I think the escapism and being able to do that together is, um, fun. It's always like, you have the grind of, okay, we got to do practice. We got to do these things. But then when you go on stage and you can kind of just have fun and rock out and dance, I think my favorite part, what makes it work, is that I like the music that we're playing. It's fun. Um, I have fun on stage. I love it. It's so different from the projects that Mark and I do stripped down. It's a little bit more emotional. I love to just fucking rock. NASH: And people have left the project, right, but none of, you know... [bad terms].
MAXWELL: Shout out to Riley, Eddie, Ty Kato and Mark Romero. Like, no one has left on negative terms. Life change pulls people in different, many directions.
NASH: I think part of it, too, in terms of what just makes it work as a band, is also that, ah, kind of like what you said, where we're all invested in our instruments and in the music, is also the fact that we trust each other. There's been times where there's maybe discussions about, like, oh, this could be different, or this could be done differently, or this would elevate your part. But there's never been a moment that I can think of where it was like, no, you're doing that wrong, and that's bad. It's very much known. You brought "Jennifer" to the table and kind of just went, here's the baseline I'm thinking of. And since then, I have taken the baseline. I think this is what it is. It is completely different. Yeah, it is way over there. It just started as that's all it was, and from there, it's changed and morphed, and you've added parts to songs that have been around for a really long time now with the tambourine and even just the backup vocals and the three-part harmonies and things. And there's never been a moment where it's like, no, this is the wrong direction. It's just like, whatever anyone decides to do with their instrument, as long as it sounds good, is what happens.
BRI: It's a good point. And I also think that one of the reasons it works so well is Mark kind of…Max and Mark have been playing together for so long that Mark just knows. He's like, hey, Max. Like, he just follows Max. They work very well together, Mark just kind of knows what's going to happen when and can change and adapt really quickly. And so, I think that that is just a pinnacle.
MARK: Yeah, that's the foundation of Roll The Bones, is Max and I. And, yeah, I don't really know how it came to be.
MAXWELL: Well, it should be noted that we both have had similar tastes in music for years. A lot of our friends were listening to similar music, even.
MARK: Yeah, I was going to say when we first met, you were listening to White Stripes, Black Keys, bands that like to speed up and slow down. Speed up before the chorus. They don't believe in click tracks or anything. Like, so, because I had listened to all that stuff as well. Um, it was pretty easy for me to be like, okay, yeah, Max wants to take the lead. He wants to speed up. Okay, I can accommodate that. I can make that work. I can speed up with you, slow down for your verse, whatever. It gives it a whole different dynamic, gets you excited, and it gets you kind of, like, flopping a bit sometimes, but not in a bad way.
NASH: It makes it one of those things where the live show is never the exact same, which I've never had an interest in being in one of those bands where it's like, nah, our goal is to make it sound like the album every single time. I like the fact that we're all able to riff a little bit within what we do and that things are dynamic and that they change. And truthfully, I think that is what makes it work, is just the fact that everybody is able to take an idea in the moment, roll with it, and we're all a good enough that if we decide to roll with it, we're not going to do it in a way that ruins the song and be trusted enough by everybody else that if it is maybe not perfect, nobody is, like, calling you out on it after the show to be like, hey, man, that sucked. Never do that again kind of thing. Because I've definitely done things where I'm like, I'm never doing that again, but I've never been called on it.
MAXWELL Maybe I'm building this up too much. But honestly, even our worst still sounds pretty good. Like, when we do make mistakes.
NASH: I think we just own the mistakes.
MAXWELL: We've played for a while in our individual skill sets. We've, uh, known each other for a while, listen to similar music in a way. I mean, you love your metal, and I'm kind of down with that.
NASH: I've listened to everything. And that's the weird thing, is, I think when we're talking influences, there's very clear lines where you can see the influences in the Roll The Bones music. But if you listen to my bass lines during a show, I'm very much influenced by prog rock and metal. And there is a lot of just rock DNA in our music, but you have to look for those pieces of it, and somehow we've made it all work.
MAXWELL: But even when things go wrong, they still work. Yeah, in a way.
NASH: If we wrote a different kind of music, where it was reliant on a click track being the same, it's very structured, it probably wouldn't work. But you write music and the two of you together have written a lot of music that relies on the fact that it's not perfect every time. And that's part of the charm of it is that. It's like you can't look at those songs and be like every single time this beat falls here. Because, your live show, like, random pauses are fun to do. And when everyone's dialed in, the audience will never know when one is coming. And sometimes I don't know when Mark is about to throw one at me, but they're there and they work.
MAXWELL: When we first started as a two piece, we didn't even use setlists. I was adamant-
BRI: That’s such a Johnny Lemons thing [former band Max was a part of] [laughs]
MAXWELL: Yeah, I don't think I could go back to that now. We do use them now. It's a five piece. INTERVIEWER: Okay, you kinda started talking about this one a bit but…here’s a really easy one. Musical influences?
MAXWELL: I mean, the Brian Jonestown Massacre, obviously.
NASH: I'll say it for Max because he won't. But Jack White [laughs]
MAXWELL: Why would I not say I love Jack White?
NASH: I didn't think you would say [laughs].
MAXWELL: No, Jack White's in there.
NASH: I feel like there's some Black Keys in there for sure.
MAXWELL: I mean, if we're going back to growing up, I listened…
MARK: Are we talking about just the music we listen to younger?
NASH: Well, some of the first things you were listening to. MARK: I was a Zeppelin fiend.
MAXWELL: Same here! I don't play much like Zeppelin, but I like. Oh yeah-
MARK: The Beatles, the Stones, all that kind of stuff. But I think Max and I really bond over garage rock and psych rock, have neo psychedelia. And whenever we'll be down in the basement, we'll be cooking something up, jamming. You know, we know we're both feeling that feeling. If something sounds good and has a vibe and it's influenced by the same stuff we've been listening to for years...
MAXWELL: Still discovering new music now, too. It's never ends. But yeah. Black keys, White Stripes, Brian Jonestown, Dandy Warhols. My parents exposed me to a ton of music, so it's hard to say. Those are most recent, maybe.
MARK: I'm pretty big into all sorts of genres, and I'll see it in some of our songs. Actually, uh, there's a song that we have, uh, “Without Me” and I remember when Max brought it to the table, he had this rhythm, and it was cool, but I had a feeling because I had been listening to a lot of rockabilly and a lot of sort of [sounds out an fast tempo beat] So I decided I just had that in my brain constantly, and I just decided to throw that in there and it's like, okay, there you go. There's a bit of a rockabilly influence. And it worked.
NASH: Deceptively difficult. Train rhythm.
MAXWELL: Yeah.
NASH: I don't know, for my part. I mean, I grew up listening to my parents. Dad gave me rock, but my mom also gave me all of the pop country. My grandfather was all the old, like, the Highwaymen and Johnny Cash and Hank Williams. All of that was my grandfather. Um, and then when I started listening to my own music, it was like, new metal and Linkin Park and all of the depressing, angsty stuff. Uh, and then eventually that shifted into, like, prog rock and Rush. Um, and that's purely from the perspective of the bass. And what I do is pull from all these different places because I'll play something that's, like, “Without Me” is very much in the rhythm, in the pocket the whole time. This is a train rhythm. I cannot deviate. There is no space to do anything weird with it. Uh, and then we'll go into something like “Jennifer” and I can do weird things, like you know, “Daylight.” I've found myself able to almost hide all of these things that when I now go and listen back to some of my favorite albums, whether they're country or prog rock. I'm like, oh, I did that. I put that in, and I didn't realize it. And it works for whatever reason, despite the fact that the genre truly is so different from what we play. But, yeah, for whatever reason, it works.
MAXWELL: Nash, you a big dream theater kind of guy or what?
NASH: Oh, yeah. ELO [Electric Light Orchestra] too. That's another one. There's something about music, for me, that tells a story that I really love, and I think a lot of our music is getting to that place.
MAXWELL: Getting there.
NASH: But our music doesn't have to tell a full story. Like, [towards Max] you're a good storyteller in the three minutes that you like to tell a story in, and that's not a problem. But I am also one of the people who listens to the ten-minute-long songs and has those crazy things where it's like, oh, yeah. Or the even more ridiculous things where it's like, this is a song that's ten minutes long, and it's the first in a series of four songs that are ten minutes long. And by the end of it, you've listened to one 40-minute-long song, “how do you feel?” [laughs] That's mainly what I listen to nowadays. And so bringing some of that into Roll The Bones has been fun, because it's, I think, a completely different direction than would have been taken to continue down the rockabilly path or the more country inspired things that helps just back up what you're doing with the guitar and make it a little bit rockier.
MAXWELL: Yeah. I've listened to a lot of You, Me and Zach and Monks on Call. Shout out to the lineup for album release!
BRI: I don't think any music that I listen to influences what I do and Roll The Bones.
MAXWELL: That's a good point.
MARK: I don’t know… [nods at Bri] BRI: What?
MARK: Because I remember when you and I went to go see The Outfit. [of Daniel Romano and the Outfit]
BRI: Okay, fuck, you're right. Okay, fine. Other than this one band, there is no...The music I listen to is very different from what we play. I love old time country. I listen to everything, like hip hop, rock. I love it all. But Daniel Romano and The Outfit. Yes! Julianna Riolino. She's my icon, and she's like, who I try to emulate. I try to emulate her on stage. I remember Mark and I went to go see them at the -
Daniel Romano and the Outfit at the Starlite Room, June 9th, 2023.
INTERVIEWER: Starlite Room?
BRI: You were there? INTERVIEWER: Yeah! June 9th How amazing was that?
MARK: So good.
BRI: It was fucked.
MARK: It was so fucked.
BRI: No, I felt like I got fucked in the audience. [laughs] I was like, this is insane. And she was, like, standing on top of a speaker, and she grabbed some guy. She shook him, and I was like, who is this? I was like, I have a crush immediately. I was like, I need to be her. She's everything. And so then when I started playing with Roll The Bones, I was like, that is everything. I want to be in this band. Um, and I want to bring the energy and kind of just have fun and not really care.
Carson Mchone, June 9th, 2023.
Bri at Soho. Oct 2023
MAXWELL: Then you just started to create your character.
BRI: Yeah. And then it's like, a little bit of who I am.
MAXWELL: Alter ego?
BRI: It's like an alter ego, but it's like I get to just go and be like, okay, I'm going to have fun and be myself. But, yeah, that's the one band that I feel like 100% influences everything I do.
MARK: Huh. Yeah. I just got a funny thought, too. I've definitely noticed it on stage a few evenings when we've been playing, and when you're up there and you're giving it your all, and then you really go into overdrive, and then all that stress in your life, all of that, whatever sadness or anger, can just be let out on the stage, and that feels so fucking good.
MAXWELL: Feels good.
MARK: And I know we're all just letting her buck.
BRI: And it's fun when you look over at someone and they're just, like, giving her shit, and you're just like, oh, yeah, me too.
MARK: It's a really good release. It's a healthy release.
BRI: Yeah. Nash is pretty stoic. I can see when he's in it, and he does. I can't even. Okay, I got to do it. [mimics Nash and him head nodding ever so slightly] He might get a bit of a head nod, like the big stand.
NASH: Mostly what happens is, I've stood like this for too long. My feet start to hurt. So I'm like, oh, that's time to-
BRI: Oh! And then you notice his stance gets wider and wider.
NASH: Do you see a beat of sweat? It's like, oh, “Without Me”, it's coming.
BRI: It’s at the end of the set, everyone's tired. My arm is about to fall off. Everyone's arms are going to fall.
NASH: And we put [at the end] the hardest song that we play. [laughs].
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